“I think there is a number of [implications]. . . I think that [our] paper, even in its kind of mid-state form, is making a very compelling argument, in our view, that all of these grand challenges would benefit from backing up and doing a critical...
“So for me it's not about this technique or that technique, it's about how do we help therapists to be good clients so that clients can get what they need and heal and move on with their lives.”